Sterling Dish 500MW solar power plant
on Mar 24 in Lowes DIY
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we need all the CSP technology we can get…. dish, power tower, trough, I don’t care, let’s install it on a massive scale.
Good 500 MW start though. I understand these do not require water cooling?
They have started building these now on a massive scale guys
we’ll get the blacks to carry it to us ;D
racist much?
@addmoreice Nukes=microwave ovens= reactors=bombs stop trolling
@soylentgreenb Why would transmission even be necessary? The sun shines everywhere! You’re confusing this with Wind!
What makes this system different than the hundreds(literally) of solar power systems that all claimed to be cheaper than coal and either turned out to have made way too optimistic assumptions, misunderstood where the bulk of cost is(transmission!) or just plain lied?
nukes != nuclear power.
NUKES are bombs. nuclear power is designed to NOT be bombs.
it’s like the spring brakes on a train. the default state of the system is for the springs to press the brakes against the system and stop the train. you have to put energy INTO the system (push back the springs) to allow it to go. if you cut the air line to the brakes on a train….the brakes engage. see? yes, you CAN mess it up by forcing the brakes back and welding them in place but the DEFAULT state is safe
@ moreice You obviously do not understand nukes- start at wikipedia about nukes. There are serious issues and no they are not idiot proof.
the research is out there. what good would a wikipedia do?
what we need is MONEY and the public will.
Yeah, you would need some sort of storage for nighttime. There are several ways, the main one right now is batteries.
If you are grid tied, you bank your daytime with the utility, and pull it back out at night.
Do some research, start a wikipedia.
Hi Soggie, that won’t be a problem because the light is being focused at the stirling. Any light getting past there (unlikely as it would waste energy) would diverge again as sharply as it was focussed so it would only be very widely spread at plane height.
can you imagine covering africa with these things? we’d have enough to power the whole fricken world. it’s not like there’s many modernized ppl living there. too bad we can’t ship the power that far.
You have a valid point. It’s better to be a bit over than short.
Also I missed something myself. 3000 watts would be the power at a given time, not total energy.
To provide 3000 watts through the night one would need to raise the watt output of the dish to accumulate enough energy for through the night.
Okay, that allows for a lot of conversion inefficiencies then. I am very “turn of the century” when doing a lot of my math, error large towqards the good side. Too much is way better than not enough.
So I would have more like 5Kw to work with.
You did your math wrong.
For a circle with an area of 4 square meters your diameter would only need to be 2.26 meters wide. Slightly less that 7 feet.
The energy output goes up by the square of the radius multiplied by Pi.
Area of a circle = π*r^2
4=π*r^2
4/π=r^2
1.273239545=r^2
Square root of 1.273239545=r
1.12837916=r
r*2=D
1.12837916*2=2.256758334
Approx the same size as a common residential ‘C’ band satellite TV dish antenna.
okay, some math. The average energy use per house hold is calculated at 3000w (I have seen 1500w used, but I can build a PC that uses that much. My sister’s hair dryer uses 1000w too)
The efficiency claimed for a lot of the solar stirling set ups is 30%. The Insolation or power per meter squared is 1400watts at my latitude. So, to get 3000watts of power I would need a oh 4 square meter dish (12 feet by 12 feet).
That would be about the size of a storage shed you see in a lot of back yards!
I am for nuclear, but this also.
sure, the newer nuclear power plants are basically idiot proof. the worst that can happen is the reaction chamber melts and it needs local clean up inside the plant. no blow ups.
@soggieshorts1 The only place that gets the entire dish surface directed at it is…. the focal point …. funnily enough where the sterling motor is mounted…
what happens when a plane flys over and gets blided by the reflection lol guess that will just be a no fly zone good idea though
how much is the cost of just one of thoues?
The thing is that you can always use some of the excessive heat and store it with salt-based water-accumulators…even though you are using a big collector tower OR stirling engines. I think stirling engines along with energy-efficient households and industries is the way to go!
exactly